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Germany as a Cyber Nation – Reality or Wishful Thinking? | InCyber Forum Special

Jul 09, 2026

Why does Germany talk about digital sovereignty while remaining dependent on international technologies? Holger Berens talks to Katharina M. Schwarz about the vision of a cyber nation. Recorded in German.

Why does Germany talk about digital sovereignty, cybersecurity and resilience while remaining dependent on international technologies and platforms in so many areas? This episode was recorded in German.

In this episode of our InCyber Forum special series, Holger Berens (BSKI) talks to Katharina M. Schwarz about the vision of a cyber nation, digital sovereignty and how Germany and Europe can secure their capacity to act in the digital space over the long term. The conversation covers digital education, the skills shortage, NIS2, European technology alternatives and the concrete steps needed to strengthen digital resilience in a lasting way.

Key questions in this episode: What does “cyber nation” actually mean? How dependent is Germany on international technology providers? What roles do politics, business and education play? And how can Europe strengthen its digital capacity to act?

Digital technologies underpin business, public administration and critical infrastructure. At the same time, geopolitical tensions, technological dependencies and the growing need for cyber resilience raise the stakes. The episode shows why digital sovereignty is not a political buzzword but a precondition for the future viability of Germany and Europe.

🎙️ About our guest: Katharina M. Schwarz is Deputy Chair of the Federal Expert Commission on Cybersecurity of the CDU Economic Council (Wirtschaftsrat der CDU). Her work focuses on cybersecurity, digital sovereignty, political communication and digital transformation. She advocates resilient digital structures and a stronger European capacity to act in cyberspace.

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